# Street has zero nodes
**URL:** https://community.citystrides.com/t/street-has-zero-nodes/21549
**Category:** Support
**Created:** [September 3, 2020, 10:49pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/street-has-zero-nodes/21549 "2020-09-03T22:49:21Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@f05f244860901569362a](https://community.citystrides.com/u/f05f244860901569362a)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2020, 10:49pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/street-has-zero-nodes/21549/1 "2020-09-03T22:49:22Z")
There are no nodes on this “street”.
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### Author:  [@JamesChevalier](https://community.citystrides.com/u/JamesChevalier)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2020, 2:08am UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/street-has-zero-nodes/21549/2 "2020-09-04T02:08:29Z")
Thanks for reporting this!
I had a bug in my city update code that I just fixed today. I should be able to fix this up tomorrow.
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### Author:  [@matthewjgarner](https://community.citystrides.com/u/matthewjgarner)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2020, 11:17am UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/street-has-zero-nodes/21549/3 "2020-10-14T11:17:49Z")
Hi James, A few more streets turned up in my area recently with zero nodes:
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A separate issue, but this ‘street’ is in fact in private land owned by the railway company and not accessible to the public:
> **[Williamsburg Plaza in London Borough of Tower Hamlets, England - CityStrides](https://citystrides.com/streets/15502979)**
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### Author:  [@hkvisgaard](https://community.citystrides.com/u/hkvisgaard)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2020, 1:15pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/street-has-zero-nodes/21549/4 "2020-10-16T13:15:03Z")
Streets with no nodes (on the community these streets have no nodes, but on city level some of the streets with the same names are correct)
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### Author:  [@wmcwik](https://community.citystrides.com/u/wmcwik)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2020, 1:24pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/street-has-zero-nodes/21549/5 "2020-10-16T13:24:42Z")
Here is a street I found that looks like it still has no nodes after the update. It is listed in the Riverside, IL streets list but it is a street completely in another town’s boundary so shouldn’t be here.
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This street with no nodes actually has a portion within the boundary of Chicago but no nodes were created for it. It would be correct to be in the list, but with nodes.
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### Author:  [@JamesChevalier](https://community.citystrides.com/u/JamesChevalier)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2020, 1:29pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/street-has-zero-nodes/21549/6 "2020-10-16T13:29:19Z")
I’m thinking that any city with a “last updated” date prior to October 15 can display this zero-node bug.
Some good news is that it looks like the system has finished its first round of updates, so Chicago should get another update pretty soon.
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### Author:  [@r.weide](https://community.citystrides.com/u/r.weide)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2020, 3:11pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/street-has-zero-nodes/21549/7 "2020-10-16T15:11:09Z")
I have have found this street in OSM [Way: Van Heurnstraat (7473752) | OpenStreetMap](https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/7473752), that exists in CS ([CityStrides](https://citystrides.com/streets/15497852)) but with no nodes. Could that be because the street is defined as highway = living\_street?
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### Author:  [@JamesChevalier](https://community.citystrides.com/u/JamesChevalier)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/street-has-zero-nodes/21549/8 "2020-10-16T15:44:55Z")
No. This is the zero-node bug from the early update process.
The `living_street` tag is not used in my queries.
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### Author:  [@ericjrw](https://community.citystrides.com/u/ericjrw)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2020, 9:13pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/street-has-zero-nodes/21549/9 "2020-10-16T21:13:10Z")
> [@JamesChevalier](#):
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> Some good news is that it looks like the system has finished its first round of updates, so Chicago should get another update pretty soon.
So does that mean updates proceed alphabetically?
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### Author:  [@JamesChevalier](https://community.citystrides.com/u/JamesChevalier)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2020, 11:27pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/street-has-zero-nodes/21549/10 "2020-10-16T23:27:08Z")
No, it’s sorted by the last updated date - first in first out. I think the initial sort was creation date.
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### Author:  [@r.weide](https://community.citystrides.com/u/r.weide)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2020, 12:26pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/street-has-zero-nodes/21549/11 "2020-10-17T12:26:36Z")
> [@JamesChevalier](#):
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> No. This is the zero-node bug from the early update process.
> The `living_street` tag is not used in my queries.
Another hunch: I renamed the streets awhile back (case). The nodes and street existed before in CS, but the street was now named slightly different. I think CS sees it as a new street but has not linked the nodes. Compare:
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Hope that helps.
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### Author:  [@JamesChevalier](https://community.citystrides.com/u/JamesChevalier)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2020, 4:12pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/street-has-zero-nodes/21549/12 "2020-10-19T16:12:59Z")
This was helpful - thanks. I manually deleted the zero-node street.
I also manually deleted _all_ zero-node streets, to see if any get created after a ~day of updates. I now see 2 new zero-node streets, so I definitely have a lingering bug.
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### Author:  [@ericjrw](https://community.citystrides.com/u/ericjrw)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2020, 5:06pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/street-has-zero-nodes/21549/13 "2020-10-19T17:06:19Z")
> [@JamesChevalier](#):
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> I also manually deleted all zero-node streets
Ah, that explains it… No “OSM update”, but went from ~12 on the incomplete list to 2. Many were 0-node. The two remaining streets, in [Keller](https://citystrides.com/cities/14388), for me, are [Jackson Road](https://citystrides.com/streets/3370220) (turns private with gate) and [Lambert Lane West](https://citystrides.com/streets/3370355) (pavement ends and node is/was in an un-runable field) - Both have been run (to their legal/practical limits), and both have recent (~4 weeks) OSM updates from me.
Looking good James!
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### Author:  [@mikehaworth](https://community.citystrides.com/u/mikehaworth)
#### Post date: [October 20, 2020, 2:27pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/street-has-zero-nodes/21549/14 "2020-10-20T14:27:31Z")
Hi Adamsdown [https://citystrides.com/cities/130576](https://citystrides.com/cities/130576) updated yesterday but
Watford Road [https://citystrides.com/streets/15625293](https://citystrides.com/streets/15625293) a 0 node street remained.
I don’t know if it makes a difference but Adamsdown is a nested city in Cardiff, UK and Watford Road still remains in Cardiff. It’s just the node that went into Adamsdown was removed in OSM.
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### Author:  [@tamworthslim](https://community.citystrides.com/u/tamworthslim)
#### Post date: [October 20, 2020, 6:08pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/street-has-zero-nodes/21549/15 "2020-10-20T18:08:48Z")
Hi James, for London Borough of Croydon [London Borough of Croydon, England - CityStrides](https://citystrides.com/users/8736/cities/130937), there was an original update on 2020-09-23 which created a bunch of zero-node streets and the streets total was 2,507.
On either 10/17 or 10/18 something happened (maybe you did a manual delete?) and all those streets disappared leaving a total of 2,468 streets with only 3 to run to get 100 % so, obviously, I went straight out and ran those streets and was able to hit 100% completion (yay!)
However on 2020-10-19 Croydon got its second update and all the zero-node streets came back with a vengeance and we’re back to 2,507 total streets…
I realise you’re aware there’s still an issue in the code creating zero-node streets but thought this might add some colour. Also, I’m puzzled as to what caused the zero-node streets to disappear this past weekend as there was no update and other cities I’m running didn’t seem to have the same thing happen.
Thanks.
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### Author:  [@ericjrw](https://community.citystrides.com/u/ericjrw)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2020, 2:45am UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/street-has-zero-nodes/21549/16 "2020-10-21T02:45:38Z")
My zero-node streets are back… In [Keller.](https://citystrides.com/cities/14388)
The streets are:
[Bates Street](https://citystrides.com/streets/15655206)
[Bella Ridge](https://citystrides.com/streets/15655204)
[Chisolm Tr](https://citystrides.com/streets/15655197)
[Liberty Drive](https://citystrides.com/streets/15655203)
[Liberty Hill Drive](https://citystrides.com/streets/15655205)
[Montrose Drive](https://citystrides.com/streets/15655202)
[Oakbrook Dr](https://citystrides.com/streets/15655201)
[Oakbrook Hills Ct](https://citystrides.com/streets/15655200)
[Spicewood Court](https://citystrides.com/streets/15655207)
[Timberland Boulevard](https://citystrides.com/streets/15655199)
[Magner](https://citystrides.com/streets/15655208) seems to be new. 1 of 3 nodes for me. Looks like I’m heading north again. Didn’t think it was Keller, and I was right there!
These are the last streets I need to finish Keller, which looks like it got an update today, 10/20/20, so maybe it’s still updating? 🤞
Keep up the good work @JamesChevalier!
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### Author:  [@r.weide](https://community.citystrides.com/u/r.weide)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2020, 11:37am UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/street-has-zero-nodes/21549/17 "2020-10-29T11:37:59Z")
I did a quick check of Amsterdam and have found 9 zero node streets so far:
- [Abtswoudepad](https://citystrides.com/streets/15658575) ([OSM](https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/511452727#map=18/52.34930/4.83682))
- [Akoleienstraat](https://citystrides.com/streets/15658560) ([OSM](https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/312679216))
- [Albert Molhof](https://citystrides.com/streets/15658598) ([OSM](https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/739126697))
- [Amstelstraat](https://citystrides.com/streets/15658607) ([OSM](https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/773856011#map=19/52.36620/4.89947))
- [Bijlmerweide](https://citystrides.com/streets/15658600) ([OSM](https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/739448034))
- [Blauwbrug](https://citystrides.com/streets/15658544) ([OSM](https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/312901769))
- [Boterbloemstraat](https://citystrides.com/streets/15658599) ([OSM](https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/739127539#map=18/52.39711/4.90511))
- [Bastiaan Plooijstraat](https://citystrides.com/streets/15658593) ([OSM](https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/733045142#map=19/52.40474/4.93249))
- [Brachthuijzerstraat](https://citystrides.com/streets/15658553) ([OSM](https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/121535136))
Just adding them here in the hope they give you some clue.
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### Author:  [@hkvisgaard](https://community.citystrides.com/u/hkvisgaard)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2020, 6:35am UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/street-has-zero-nodes/21549/18 "2020-11-28T06:35:22Z")
hi, thank you for updating!
Zero nodes streets:
> **[Frennings vei in Bjerke, Oslo - CityStrides](https://citystrides.com/streets/15657081)**
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> **[Biskop Nikolas' gate in Gamle Oslo, Oslo - CityStrides](https://citystrides.com/streets/15656417)**
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> **[Grønlands Torg in Gamle Oslo, Oslo - CityStrides](https://citystrides.com/streets/15656419)**
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> **[Helga Helgesens plass in Gamle Oslo, Oslo - CityStrides](https://citystrides.com/streets/15656421)**
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> **[Lena Hiorths Plass in Gamle Oslo, Oslo - CityStrides](https://citystrides.com/streets/15656427)**
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> **[Urtehagen in Gamle Oslo, Oslo - CityStrides](https://citystrides.com/streets/15656422)**
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Also: This street has changed due to new construction: It is now longer than before, but the new part has no nodes. Also the short south headning part is closed with a new building … as I could not get to all nodes. I tried to use the “improve the map” function, but it did not work according to what I needed to be done.
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### Author:  [@nodds77](https://community.citystrides.com/u/nodds77)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2020, 10:56am UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/street-has-zero-nodes/21549/19 "2020-11-28T10:56:25Z")
One from Edinburgh
> **[Cygnet Court in Northfield/Willowbrae, Scotland - CityStrides](https://citystrides.com/streets/15625316#55.96656533489062,-3.1582831424252618&14.027933879304953)**
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### Author:  [@fredrik.coulter](https://community.citystrides.com/u/fredrik.coulter)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2020, 2:12pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/street-has-zero-nodes/21549/20 "2020-11-30T14:12:52Z")
The most important piece of information for zero node streets is the date the city was last updated. There’s a bug fix that should have fixed all of them after a certain date, so that information is needed to know whether this is a new problem or not.
Errors and changes to roads need to be fixed in [openstreetmap.org](http://openstreetmap.org). The changes will then be reflected here when the city is next updated.
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