# My city isn't there (yet?) - how can I run it?

**URL:** https://community.citystrides.com/t/my-city-isnt-there-yet-how-can-i-run-it/14345
**Category:** Support
**Created:** [April 27, 2017, 7:34am UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/my-city-isnt-there-yet-how-can-i-run-it/14345 "2017-04-27T07:34:48Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![JamesChevalier](https://community.citystrides.com/user_avatar/community.citystrides.com/jameschevalier/32/2_2.png) [@JamesChevalier](https://community.citystrides.com/u/JamesChevalier)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/my-city-isnt-there-yet-how-can-i-run-it/14345/21 "2022-05-08T18:04:25Z")

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Thanks for posting - I have a recurring task each month to add more cities/countries, but sometimes I need to be reminded. 😅 I’ve got another batch of 18 cities going in now, Kenilworth included.

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### Author: ![willdineley](https://community.citystrides.com/user_avatar/community.citystrides.com/willdineley/32/3162_2.png) [@willdineley](https://community.citystrides.com/u/willdineley)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2022, 6:46pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/my-city-isnt-there-yet-how-can-i-run-it/14345/22 "2022-05-08T18:46:55Z")

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Amazing thanks for updating it so quickly!

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### Author: ![renehjortholsen](https://community.citystrides.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@renehjortholsen](https://community.citystrides.com/u/renehjortholsen)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2022, 2:56pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/my-city-isnt-there-yet-how-can-i-run-it/14345/23 "2022-05-09T14:56:39Z")

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@JamesChevalier Do you mind to add  
Belfast, Northern Ireland and Belgrade, Serbia  
Thank you

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### Author: ![JamesChevalier](https://community.citystrides.com/user_avatar/community.citystrides.com/jameschevalier/32/2_2.png) [@JamesChevalier](https://community.citystrides.com/u/JamesChevalier)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2022, 2:59pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/my-city-isnt-there-yet-how-can-i-run-it/14345/24 "2022-05-09T14:59:49Z")

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See [Belfast not progressed - #8 by JamesChevalier](https://community.citystrides.com/t/belfast-not-progressed/24863/8)

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### Author: ![lisakraker86](https://community.citystrides.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/bbe5ce/32.png) [@lisakraker86](https://community.citystrides.com/u/lisakraker86)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2022, 11:19pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/my-city-isnt-there-yet-how-can-i-run-it/14345/25 "2022-05-25T23:19:09Z")

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@JamesChevalier I added Howth (Sutton) Ireland to that spreadsheet as well. Hoping that will be added soon! Thank you for all you do. I’m totally obsessed with progressing streets/cities.

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### Author: ![JamesChevalier](https://community.citystrides.com/user_avatar/community.citystrides.com/jameschevalier/32/2_2.png) [@JamesChevalier](https://community.citystrides.com/u/JamesChevalier)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2022, 1:46pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/my-city-isnt-there-yet-how-can-i-run-it/14345/26 "2022-05-26T13:46:00Z")

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There are a couple usable Howths (there needs to be a boundary, it cannot be a single node) - [https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/ui/search.html?q=howth+ireland](https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/ui/search.html?q=howth+ireland)

Looks like it could be any one of these:

- [Relation: ‪Howth‬ (‪5404258‬) | OpenStreetMap](https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5404258)
- [Relation: ‪Beann Eadair‬ (‪11851183‬) | OpenStreetMap](https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/11851183)
- [Relation: ‪Howth Civil Parish‬ (‪5429607‬) | OpenStreetMap](https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5429607)
- [Relation: ‪Howth‬ (‪9329907‬) | OpenStreetMap](https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/9329907)

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### Author: ![lisakraker86](https://community.citystrides.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/bbe5ce/32.png) [@lisakraker86](https://community.citystrides.com/u/lisakraker86)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2022, 1:49pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/my-city-isnt-there-yet-how-can-i-run-it/14345/27 "2022-05-26T13:49:40Z")

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@JamesChevalier I’m honestly not sure what the boundaries of Howth are. I’m visiting on vacation and Google maps is unclear. The third option seems like the best?

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#### Post date: [July 18, 2022, 10:40am UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/my-city-isnt-there-yet-how-can-i-run-it/14345/28 "2022-07-18T10:40:23Z")

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I just added Ponta Delgada in the Azores (Portugal) to the list. It’s just a nice-to-have, but would be a cherry on top of my upcoming vacation there. Thanks, James!

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### Author: ![JamesChevalier](https://community.citystrides.com/user_avatar/community.citystrides.com/jameschevalier/32/2_2.png) [@JamesChevalier](https://community.citystrides.com/u/JamesChevalier)
#### Post date: [July 20, 2022, 8:17pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/my-city-isnt-there-yet-how-can-i-run-it/14345/29 "2022-07-20T20:17:31Z")

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Wondering if I should add everything in the Azores at:

…admin\_level 7 (visit [overpass turbo](https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1kiV) and click the top left “Run” for an interactive list)

 ![Screen Shot 2022-07-20 at 4.14.59 PM](https://d25dflut6m8e53.cloudfront.net/original/2X/1/1f19e35332de83be1c5f24dcb0f3ab55db23c021.png)

…or admin\_level 8 (visit [overpass turbo](https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1kiU) and click the top left “Run” for an interactive list)

 ![Screen Shot 2022-07-20 at 4.16.32 PM](https://d25dflut6m8e53.cloudfront.net/original/2X/7/77faff9b92e2db64fe8480ed50656c8c98d2bf04.png)

// @kevincharlespels Does one look better than the other to you?

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### Author: ![kevincharlespels](https://community.citystrides.com/user_avatar/community.citystrides.com/kevincharlespels/32/2536_2.png) [@kevincharlespels](https://community.citystrides.com/u/kevincharlespels)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2022, 3:21pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/my-city-isnt-there-yet-how-can-i-run-it/14345/30 "2022-07-21T15:21:09Z")

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Oh man, it’s hard to say since I haven’t been to the Azores to run yet…I would assume level 8 for most of that island (there are 8 other islands) but check the capital Ponta Delgada and maybe other denser areas (Vila Franca do Campo & Rabo do Peixe?). But I wouldn’t say this is any Portugal-specific insight since a) I haven’t been there and b) they are autonomous governing units so that may affect how they divide administrative units.

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### Author: ![JamesChevalier](https://community.citystrides.com/user_avatar/community.citystrides.com/jameschevalier/32/2_2.png) [@JamesChevalier](https://community.citystrides.com/u/JamesChevalier)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2022, 4:14pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/my-city-isnt-there-yet-how-can-i-run-it/14345/31 "2022-07-21T16:14:14Z")

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🤦 Ugh, naturally there are several options…

Ponta Delgada

- [Relation: ‪Ponta Delgada‬ (‪7540361‬) | OpenStreetMap](https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7540361) level 7
- [Relation: ‪Ponta Delgada (São José)‬ (‪7540327‬) | OpenStreetMap](https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7540327) level 8
- [Relation: ‪Ponta Delgada (São Sebastião)‬ (‪7540328‬) | OpenStreetMap](https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7540328) level 8
- [Relation: ‪Ponta Delgada (São Pedro)‬ (‪7540326‬) | OpenStreetMap](https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7540326) level 8
- [Relation: ‪Ponta Delgada‬ (‪8523859‬) | OpenStreetMap](https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8523859) census

Vila Franca do Campo

- [Relation: ‪Vila Franca do Campo‬ (‪7540356‬) | OpenStreetMap](https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7540356) level 7
- [Relation: ‪Vila Franca do Campo (São Miguel)‬ (‪7540290‬) | OpenStreetMap](https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7540290) level 8
- [Relation: ‪Vila Franca do Campo (São Pedro)‬ (‪7540289‬) | OpenStreetMap](https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7540289) level 8

Rabo de Peixe

- [Relation: ‪Rabo de Peixe‬ (‪7540301‬) | OpenStreetMap](https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7540301) level 8
- [Relation: ‪Rabo de Peixe‬ (‪8523873‬) | OpenStreetMap](https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8523873) census

Based on some notes in [Ponta Delgada - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponta_Delgada) I don’t think I’m any closer to a decision. 😅

It describes Ponta Delgada as a concelho (which would make it a region in CityStrides), which conflicts with my initial idea of adding Azores as the region 😭

> **Ponta Delgada** (Portuguese pronunciation: [[ˈpõtɐ ðɛlˈɣaðɐ]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Portuguese) ([![](https://d25dflut6m8e53.cloudfront.net/original/2X/e/e01effaf03e49c48eadc116d4273856c288070d5.png)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pt-pt_Ponta_Delgada_FF.ogg)[listen](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Pt-pt_Ponta_Delgada_FF.ogg)); lit. ‘“Thin Cape”’) is the largest municipality (_[concelho](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concelho)_ ) and economic capital of the Autonomous Region of the [Azores](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azores) in Portugal.

And it describes admin level 7 in OSM:

> The municipality of Ponta Delgada is one of the larger administrative divisions in the archipelago, extending from the center of the island to the western coast. Ponta Delgada is bordered on the northeast by the municipality of [Ribeira Grande](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribeira_Grande,_S%C3%A3o_Miguel), and southeast by relatively new municipality of [Lagoa](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagoa,_Azores).

Ah! It [lists some parishes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponta_Delgada#Human_geography), which map to admin level 8.

> Not to be confused with a traditional city, the _city_ of Ponta Delgada has no legal jurisdiction or mayor, but the _municipality_ of Ponta Delgada has an elected official, the _Presidente da Câmara Municipal_ who administers and _Assembleia Municipal_ , which is the representative council, while dispersed parish councils (and elected presidents) govern the localities that circle the western edge of São Miguel.

😳  
I just notice [Madeira](https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1629145) needs to be added to CityStrides as well & it looks like a similar situation 🤣 😭  
Its Wikipedia page is offering [a helpful list of administrative divisions](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeira#Administrative_divisions) that will probably be applicable to Azores … It effectively boils the question down to:  
Should the municipalities of Azores/Madeira exist in CityStrides, or should the parishes of Azores/Madeira exist in CityStrides?

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> [@JamesChevalier](#):
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> It describes Ponta Delgada as a concelho (which would make it a region in CityStrides)

In case this clarifies, _concelho_ is more like city/county. The regions, at least for those listed on [Portugal - CityStrides](https://citystrides.com/countries/155), are _distritos_, which are larger administrative units.

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### Author: ![JamesChevalier](https://community.citystrides.com/user_avatar/community.citystrides.com/jameschevalier/32/2_2.png) [@JamesChevalier](https://community.citystrides.com/u/JamesChevalier)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2022, 7:45pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/my-city-isnt-there-yet-how-can-i-run-it/14345/33 "2022-07-22T19:45:12Z")

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I went with admin level 8, because that’s what the rest of Portugal is using. They’re still importing, so some pages may not be fully functional & processing is definition not done yet:

- [Açores, Portugal - CityStrides](https://citystrides.com/regions/1851)
- [Madeira, Portugal - CityStrides](https://citystrides.com/regions/1852)

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### Author: ![renehjortholsen](https://community.citystrides.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@renehjortholsen](https://community.citystrides.com/u/renehjortholsen)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2023, 7:41pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/my-city-isnt-there-yet-how-can-i-run-it/14345/34 "2023-08-29T19:41:37Z")

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Can you add Pristina, Kosovo to the map  
Thanx

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### Author: ![JamesChevalier](https://community.citystrides.com/user_avatar/community.citystrides.com/jameschevalier/32/2_2.png) [@JamesChevalier](https://community.citystrides.com/u/JamesChevalier)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2023, 8:03pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/my-city-isnt-there-yet-how-can-i-run-it/14345/35 "2023-08-29T20:03:20Z")

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> [@renehjortholsen](#):
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> Can you add Pristina, Kosovo

It looks like, to bring in all of Kosovo, I can either import admin level 8 with very little coverage: [overpass turbo](https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1zyn) or I can import admin level 6 with full coverage but very large cities: [overpass turbo](https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1zyq)

(you will need to click the top left Run button, accept the prompt about a large amount of data, then click the magnifying glass button on the map)

If you view those results & click around the map - does one level seem more like a “city” for you than the other?

Maybe another helpful view of the two levels - we would choose one of these two options:

- [Relation: ‪Prishtinë‬ (‪7118787‬) | OpenStreetMap](https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7118787)
- [Relation: ‪Komuna e Prishtinës / Opština Priština‬ (‪1332181‬) | OpenStreetMap](https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1332181)

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The first one looks like the city

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#### Post date: [September 4, 2023, 3:44pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/my-city-isnt-there-yet-how-can-i-run-it/14345/37 "2023-09-04T15:44:29Z")

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How about Moldova? I’m going there in a couple of weeks, would be nice to have at least Chisinau in CS!

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### Author: ![JamesChevalier](https://community.citystrides.com/user_avatar/community.citystrides.com/jameschevalier/32/2_2.png) [@JamesChevalier](https://community.citystrides.com/u/JamesChevalier)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 5:19pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/my-city-isnt-there-yet-how-can-i-run-it/14345/38 "2023-09-05T17:19:27Z")

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Moldova already exists: [Moldova - CityStrides](https://citystrides.com/countries/125)  
I do think I should recreate it, though … It looks like the list of cities should really be the Regions, and then I should bring in admin level 8 as cities within those regions. It wouldn’t fully cover the country - [overpass turbo](https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1zQ4) - but it seems like it would be more accurate.

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Aha, great, I was looking for just Chisinau, not Municipul Chisinau😁. A bit difficult to search for countries, maybe that could also be a menu option?

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#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 6:24pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/my-city-isnt-there-yet-how-can-i-run-it/14345/40 "2023-09-05T18:24:00Z")

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Ugh, and it didn’t get returned in the search because it’s “Chișinău” - if you search for that in the Cities page, it’ll be returned. Most names in other languages have an English version, which I also store … This one just happens to still use the special characters.

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