Does donating prioritise my city?

Hi,

Does donating increase the likelihood of my city being added to CityStrides?

I would love to use CityStrides and more than willing to help out financially (as I’m sure a lot of people in the same situation are).

Brendon Jones
Resident of Canberra, Australia

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I like that you’ve brought this idea up - I’m sitting here wondering if I should spend a bit more time following around Supporters to make sure everything is :star: for them. Thanks.

For Canberra - check out the OSM search results for this city. If you click on each of the blocks (not the ‘details’ button, but the block itself) you’ll see how the map never displays a city border. For comparison, a search for Sydney shows its border.
This lack of a border means that there’s no data for me to extract. :frowning_face:

I have no idea how to update OSM with the borders of a city. There are some people around here who are familiar with OSM editing - it’s possible that someone could help us out here…

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Hi,

I think I understand the problem, when I search for ‘District Australian Capital Territory’ in OSM (search results) it shows a series of ‘Administrative Boundaries’ for Canberra (Australian Capital Territory). Each of these seems to have a usable boundary. They are linked through the Australian Capital Territory (Canberra) parent.

Here are a couple of examples:
Gungahlin (North Canberra)
Tuggeranong (South Canberra)

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

Cheers,
Brendon

Edit: Since posting this, I’ve gone down the rabbit hole a little bit (following your Github instructions) and understand how time consuming this must be for you.

Well, you sold me. I became a supporter. Even if Canberra never makes it on here, I love the idea of this site.

Brendon

Ah! It looks like Australia is set up differently from other countries I’ve come across…

Starting at Australia, scroll down that page to (nearly) the end - there’s an “Administrative” section. Those would map to “regions” in CityStrides.
Clicking through the ‘details’ link for Australian Capital Territory brings us here. Scrolling down that page to the “Administrative” section displays a bunch of Districts, which have an Admin Level of 7. In most other countries, I can go from the “region” level directly to the “city” level - so I’m unsure if these Districts are “city enough” for CityStrides or not.

Going with one of your examples, District of Gungahlin - is that the city you’d expect in CityStrides or … if you scroll down to the “Administrative” section - are those the cities you’d expect in CityStrides e.g. Amaroo?

After looking into some of these Districts a bit more, it seems to me like these would be the cities I’d add to CityStrides (not the suburbs/villages that are within them):

  • District of Belconnen
  • District of Canberra Central
  • District of Coree
  • District of Cotter River
  • District of Gungahlin
  • District of Hall
  • District of Jerrabomberra
  • District of Kowen
  • District of Majura
  • District of Molonglo Valley
  • District of Paddys River
  • District of Stromlo
  • District of Tuggeranong
  • District of Weston Creek
  • District of Woden Valley

:man_shrugging:

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Hi James,

The Districts you listed fit perfectly as ‘cities’ within the Australian Capital Territory. The individual suburbs/villages are too narrow to be useful in the context of CityStrides.

Thanks for taking the time to look at this. I think every state/territory in Australia works differently in OSM. If you need some help navigating what would work in Australia, I’m more than happy to help however I can.

Cheers!
Brendon

Hi James,

Is there any value in me going through the process outlined in the link below to generate the Poly file? Or will I just make more work for everyone?

Cheers,
Brendon

I have another more automated process to collect full countries/regions, so it’s probably not worth your effort in retrieving just the one poly file.
So I’ll go through and collect everything (each of the Admin level 7 Districts) within Australian Capital Territory. Some time in the future, I can go through the same process for each other Admin level 4 regions in the Administrative section of Australia - since you mentioned that each region might have its own organization.

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How’s Canberra coming along, @JamesChevalier? Anything we can do to help? (Sounds like no…) I did, a while back, go through the process for Ottawa but didn’t know how to get it to you. I have your email now, would it help? Is it actually beneficial for people to send you files?

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@JamesChevalier - Any chance we can work through a similar process for Sydney, and any value in the poly files I previous created for you?


A lot of the features of the site (home page, most run streets, etc etc) pose little to no value to myself as a regular user, as none of the streets I run are part of your cities!
I still use it for the lifemap, etc so that I can physically see which streets I have run, even if they count for nothing :wink:

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Sorry @supermitch / @w.sergent / others … June is wild busy for me.

I’ve got three major areas that I’m working on / intending to work on:

  • adding new cities (this pairs with data cleanup, in that I don’t want to run my old import script because it imports lots of bad data … I’ve been working with a few other people in other threads on this)
  • a new activity tracking integration
  • a new feature to help complete streets

That’s the main order of priority, but things shift around from day to day for various reasons.

Update re-reading this, it sounds a bit nonsensical/off topic … I just mean to say that I can’t devote as much time I want to CityStrides right now, but I’ll be back in July to work on this as well as some other things :+1:

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As far as I can see, it does not.

It would be nice if @JamesChevalier would explain better the challenges he faces, his roadmap and how we can help, because not having your city is a major inconvenient. I come here daily, but at the same time, I am frustrated because identifying missing streets is difficult and progress is not measured.