# Discrepancy in city borders

**URL:** https://community.citystrides.com/t/discrepancy-in-city-borders/26586
**Category:** Support
**Created:** [July 14, 2023, 12:56am UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/discrepancy-in-city-borders/26586 "2023-07-14T00:56:24Z")
**Posts on this page:** 4
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### Author: ![weds19](https://community.citystrides.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/3be4f8/32.png) [@weds19](https://community.citystrides.com/u/weds19)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2023, 12:56am UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/discrepancy-in-city-borders/26586/1 "2023-07-14T00:56:24Z")

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Does this include areas that should be included in a city and are not? I’m not sure if that should be added to the missing cities tracker or if I should be taking other action.  
For example:

- [Herndon, Virginia - CityStrides](https://citystrides.com/cities/6333)  
[Relation: ‪Herndon‬ (‪206591‬) | OpenStreetMap](https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/206591)  
There are a bunch of streets that google calls Herndon as well, but OpenStreets calls “Cooktown” or “Dranesville” so they don’t show nodes at all in CityStrides.  
[Node: ‪Cooktown‬ (‪158412882‬) | OpenStreetMap](https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/158412882)  
Same thing further south where Openstreets calls it “Oak Hill”:  
[Way: ‪Kinross Circle‬ (‪228470700‬) | OpenStreetMap](https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/228470700)

These are giant chunks of Northern VA. How should I proceed to get these added for tracking?

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### Author: ![JamesChevalier](https://community.citystrides.com/user_avatar/community.citystrides.com/jameschevalier/32/2_2.png) [@JamesChevalier](https://community.citystrides.com/u/JamesChevalier)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2023, 1:23pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/discrepancy-in-city-borders/26586/2 "2023-07-14T13:23:09Z")

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In OpenStreetMap, you can zoom in close … right click … Query features → this will update the left column & at the bottom it will display the list of Relation records that enclose what you right clicked

I often do this to figure out which street a city is in

Your Cooktown node link is interesting, because right clicking any of the three visible cities & choosing Query features results in it showing me that the streets all exist in Herndon

On the other hand, right clicking Kinross Circle shows me that it’s not in _any_ city - just the county.  
This is a typical issue where cities don’t exist in OpenStreetMap. [Adding a City to OpenStreetMap](https://community.citystrides.com/t/adding-a-city-to-openstreetmap/21433) is quite a process

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### Author: ![zelonewolf](https://community.citystrides.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/74df32/32.png) [@zelonewolf](https://community.citystrides.com/u/zelonewolf)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2023, 2:05pm UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/discrepancy-in-city-borders/26586/3 "2023-07-14T14:05:29Z")

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This is the normal state of affairs in Maryland and Virginia - lots of unincorporated areas that aren’t part of a city or town. You have to use CDPs strategically to make the game work.

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### Author: ![weds19](https://community.citystrides.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/3be4f8/32.png) [@weds19](https://community.citystrides.com/u/weds19)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2023, 11:48am UTC](https://community.citystrides.com/t/discrepancy-in-city-borders/26586/4 "2023-07-19T11:48:57Z")

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Ok. Really appreciate the details. I’ll see if adding a city is something I can pull off. Or if I can find someone experienced willing to do it if I Venmo them. 😉

It does look like “Dranesville” is a Census Designated Place so that’s at least a start. I just need to dig into whether that boundary overlaps with Herndon as that would complicate it more.

I’ve already run 90% of these streets anticipating that it would get corrected at some point so I have extra incentive to get it into CS.
